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Thoughts on Wood Chip Mulch in the Garden for building soil #921991

Asked November 15, 2025, 10:39 AM EST

I'm curious about MSU Extension's official stance on using wood chips to build soil in your vegetable garden as part of a no-till approach. I recently read the article about the invasive jumping worms and feel like there is another perspective you are missing out on, and that's heavily mulching with wood chips as a solution to prevent the worms from destroying your soil. It's very dishearting to see an authority like MSU Extension basically discouraging people from using a no-till approach in their vegetable garden. I feel that you are doing the community at large a huge disservice.

Ingham County Michigan

Expert Response

At MSU Extension, we recognize that people use many different approaches to manage their garden soils. No-till is an excellent option that protects the soil structure and keeps the weed bank undisturbed so weed seeds remain underground. We promote the application of organic matter to build the soil, including wood chip mulches which also serve to regulate soil moisture and temperature, reducing the need for supplemental irrigation. Unfortunately, a heavy layer of wood chips will create an ideal environment for jumping worms. They will thrive under the mulch, using it for cover and as a food source. With food and moisture plentiful, they will proliferate rapidly.

Now it may be that the article you referenced can be tweaked a bit, if you feel it discourages no-till. If you have any specific suggestions on wording that would improve the article, I would be happy to consider those changes. Sometimes just adding a sentence or two can make a big difference.

Thank you for contacting Ask Extension! Replied November 17, 2025, 9:48 AM EST
Thanks for the response.  I searched around the extension resources and couldn't find a single piece of information recommending using wood chips in the vegetable garden, other than saying to use it in paths.  This is the article I'm specifically referring to regarding that:  https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/select_the_right_vegetable_garden_mulch

I've been building our soil on our residential property, vegetable garden & perennial beds for almost 15 years now using nothing but wood chips and have had the most amazing success you can imagine.  I'm always confused when I see organizations that people look to as authorities on gardening, telling people to not use wood chips to build their soil in their vegetable garden.  The Greater Lansing Food Bank's Garden Project also says the same thing in one of their resource guides, about not putting wood chips in the vegetable garden, just paths.

The only thing I can figure is that it's all due to short term thinking.  I'd like to encourage you to rethink this position of not using wood chips in the actual vegetable garden, as from my experience and perspective it's the most missed opportunity out there.

In regards to the jumping worms, I'd also like you to rethink this position that heavily mulching with wood chips is not a good idea if they are present.  I'd like to suggest that not only would keeping your garden mulched with wood chips solve the problems that these worms create, but they would also create an environment for natural predators of the worms to thrive.

Hopefully I can take the time to elaborate more on this someday, but for now I just wanted to just put those ideas out there.

Thanks again for the prompt response!

Sincerely,

David Albert




On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 9:48 AM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 17, 2025, 11:50 AM EST

We routinely recommend the use of organic mulches in vegetable gardens, not just in paths. This is certainly the case in our presentations and programs, including our flagship Foundations of Gardening course. We don't have a lot of publications on mulch specifically, but here is one where wood chip mulch is specifically recommended, including photos showing a mulched vegetable bed: https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/smart_gardeners_improve_their_soil_and_weed_control_with_organic_mulch

Wood chips are not a cure-all, but they certainly have their place in conserving moisture, regulating temperature, and providing a nutrient source. As for the jumping worm article, I don't recall putting anything in there to discourage the use of mulch. We mention that mulch unfortunately creates an ideal environment for them, but the point is to make people aware that the worms thrive in the same environments that are good for plants and soil health. The only comment we made about restricting the use of mulch is related to using mulch from areas infected by the worms. If you can think of a better way of phrasing things to clarify those points, I'd be happy to incorporate new wording.

Thank you for contacting Ask Extension! Replied November 17, 2025, 2:11 PM EST
Thanks for the follow up.  It's nice to see that there's at least some info you provide that doesn't have the caveat of only putting wood chips in paths for the vegetable garden.

I am curious though, why would the extension even allow information like the article I referenced to be published on your website, stating that wood chips should only be used in paths for a vegetable garden?  It seems it would be a bit confusing for an average person just looking around at info and to come across that article that I referenced that is from last week that disagrees with the article you just sent me from 2018?

It just all seems very inconsistent and confusing.  How do these articles come about?  Like if I wrote something that you guys found credible, would you publish that?  As someone who has been very passionate about building soil with wood chips for so long, it's obvious to me that there's tons of misinformation out there and I'd like to find a way to really set the record straight on this topic.

I have a small nursery and edible landscaping business based in Lansing called Fruitful Landscapes.  Here's a short little video that should give you an idea of how much experience I have with using wood chips in the garden:  https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1K9bL2YL4H/

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 2:11 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 17, 2025, 2:40 PM EST

Not to beat these topics to death, but I just wanted to give more perspective as to why I'm so passionate about them.


Recently one of my neighbors pointed out an article from MLive & WILX where they pointed out that someone had found jumping worms in Dewitt Twp and she wanted to warn me about them.  This led me down a rabbit hole of looking into them further and I came across the MSU Extension article talking about the jumping worms.  Upon discovering that the Extension article said that sadly organic practices and no till gardens created the perfect environment for these worms to proliferate I was bothered, as this is a major part of what I promote to my customers as an edible landscaping business.

With that said I just want to point out a few specific reasons why I believe heavily wood chip mulched gardens are actually a solution and not a problem for controlling these worms.

In my experience, our heavily wood chip mulched gardens create a perfect environment for centipedes.  Almost anytime I rake back some wood chips in our gardens to plant something I see centipedes.  After doing just a tiny bit of research it's clear that an abundance of centipedes alone is probably enough to keep jumping worm populations in check where they exist.  I hope this one example is enough to make you rethink your position on this topic.

On another note, I would like to disagree with the theory that putting on too much mulch is bad because it can create a crusty hydrophobic layer that needs to be broken up with a pitch fork at some point.  This never happens in our gardens at home and I believe it's because we have such a fungal dominant environment that the hyphae never allow this to happen.  The latest mulch article on the Extensions website states that you shouldn't put on more than 3 or 4 inches of wood chips to begin with, which I believe is part of the problem.  I always recommend starting with at least 12 inches of wood chips when converting to a no-till wood chip mulched garden.  This creates a fungal dominant environment and creates so much life that as long as you continue to re-cover the garden every year with a few inches of wood chips, you'll never see this crusty layer develop.  Sure, you may need to adjust what you plant for the first few years, but once things are fully developed you will have the most amazing soil you could ever imagine.  I always recommend for the first few years simply planting things like squash, as you can easily supplement compost in your planting holes and they will take up a large space in the garden.  The following year you can move onto things that take up a little less space, like tomatoes for example, while still supplementing with compost in your planting holes, but by the third year you should be able to begin direct seeding just about anything you want.

I hope this gives you a little more perspective of my point of view and sparks your interest in what I'm trying to get across.

P.S.  If you are ever interested in seeing first hand the amazing results we have achieved over the years with heavily mulching with wood chips, I would be more than happy to have you over sometime and show you around our place.  We are over on the NW side of Lansing in the Tecumseh River neighborhood.

Regards,



On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 2:32 PM David Albert <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
Thanks for the follow up.  It's nice to see that there's at least some info you provide that doesn't have the caveat of only putting wood chips in paths for the vegetable garden.

I am curious though, why would the extension even allow information like the article I referenced to be published on your website, stating that wood chips should only be used in paths for a vegetable garden?  It seems it would be a bit confusing for an average person just looking around at info and to come across that article that I referenced that is from last week that disagrees with the article you just sent me from 2018?

It just all seems very inconsistent and confusing.  How do these articles come about?  Like if I wrote something that you guys found credible, would you publish that?  As someone who has been very passionate about building soil with wood chips for so long, it's obvious to me that there's tons of misinformation out there and I'd like to find a way to really set the record straight on this topic.

I have a small nursery and edible landscaping business based in Lansing called Fruitful Landscapes.  Here's a short little video that should give you an idea of how much experience I have with using wood chips in the garden:  https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1K9bL2YL4H/

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 2:11 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 18, 2025, 4:00 AM EST

Yours is an interesting approach. It sounds like you are essentially creating a soilless mix raised bed above the native mineral soil. Back when I was directly involved in tree research, we used an 80:20 mix of shredded pine bark to sphagnum moss (now we would use something renewable) as a container mix. I suspect that jumping worms would not be an issue in terms of plant health using your approach, perhaps because of the centipedes, but perhaps because of the endless food supply. You may have heard the counterintuitive news about whitefish flourishing in Green Bay, apparently because the overabundant nutrients cannot be fully cleared by the invasive muscles, allowing for persistence of the food chain that would otherwise collapse. It is unlikely that jumping worms could break down all of the organic matter you are supplying, though they are likely to rapidly reproduce.

I would be very interested in seeing your operating in action. I appreciate the invitation and I'll make a note to touch base next spring to set something up. I will also see about adding a line to our jumping worm article to clarify that organic practices like mulching are recommended practices even if they create habitats conducive to jumping worms.

Thank you for contacting Ask Extension! Replied November 18, 2025, 9:17 AM EST
I think the only thing accurate about what you said is that I'm building on top of the native mineral soil.  I'm definitely not doing anything close to a soiless mix, maybe the example I gave about how I would use a freshly wood chipped garden for the first few years threw you off.

I just posted a video on Facebook somewhat inspired by this conversation.  This should give you a better idea of what I'm talking about:  https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17nKLpmNKP/

Thanks for taking the time to consider my feedback and feel free to get in touch anytime to come check out what we've built over here!

On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 9:17 AM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 18, 2025, 2:10 PM EST

Just watched your video, looks like great growing conditions... and love the chickens! We may just be using language differently. Technically, topsoil includes mineral soil, being primarily made up of sand, silt and clay, with a much smaller component of organic matter. The "topsoil" you created through layering of wood chips is largely humus, which is the stable form of organic matter after it has been decomposed. That is indeed a soilless mix, but which I mean it is fully made up of organic matter without any mineral soil (sand, silt, clay from rock weathering). Do you use anything for fertilizer, or has everything grown fine? You did mention compost, but it seems that is only for the first couple of years. I would imagine this system would supply nutrients for a good while, although I could see heavy feeders like tomatoes or cucumbers eventually struggling without supplemental nutrients.

Thank you for contacting Ask Extension! Replied November 18, 2025, 2:56 PM EST
Ah, I see.  I do kinda mix all those words together incorrectly sometimes I suppose.

This was the first year we ever used fertilizer, but just in the starts that we grew in the spring.  The fertilzers we used were mostly a mixture of the Down To Earth products.  Other than that, no fertilizer at all.  I only watered a couple of times this year and I probably really didn't even need to do that to be honest.

We've actually been growing tomatoes in that same area for over 10 years now without doing anything other than covering with wood chips every fall.  I guess technically the wood chips we covered it with a few times were actually aged chips from the chicken yard, so that's been helpful as well.

Not to keep sending videos, lol, but here's a little video showing how we've been making our potting mix for nursery plants, which is basically what we used in our vegetable starts as well:  https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17TFXsJwXW/

On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 2:56 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 18, 2025, 4:10 PM EST

Just watched the video. That is quite the operation! Looks like a nice mix.

Thank you for contacting Ask Extension! Replied November 20, 2025, 6:13 PM EST

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