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help identifying a plant #898213

Asked April 22, 2025, 2:10 PM EDT

It has been suggested that I contact your office.

I have been trying to identify a plant in my yard that was damaged and I'd like to replace it with the same variety.

It looks like an arborvitae but different shape (Spherical) and, most importantly, is immune to the deer damage that every other arborvitae suffers in our community.
The local nurseries say it doesn't exist and suggest I just plant the ones they sell. (deer food.)  I get it, it's what they do.

Is identifying this plant something you can help with and what do I need to do?

Thanks for any direction.

Oakland County Michigan

Expert Response

Conifer identification can be difficult and conifer cultivar identification can be much more difficult, as some species have hundreds of cultivars. However, we can definitely narrow this down with some more information. If you have lots of deer browsing in your area but they are not bothering this plant, I think that you are right to suspect that it is a different species than the typical American arborvitae (Thuja occidentalis). 

There are many cultivars of the oriental arborvitae (often sold as Thuja orientalis but now considered to be a different genus, Platycladus orientalis). The oriental arborvitae is less susceptible to deer browsing than the American arborvitae. The foliage can appear very similar, but their fruiting structures are different.  Are there any older cones on the tree? if so, can you take a photo of them? Do you remember seeing bluish-gray fruits (the cones before they open) on this plant?


There is one other species that this plant could be - Hiba arborvitae (Thujopsis dolabrata). This species is much less susceptible to deer browsing than the other two. There are far fewer cultivars of this species but there are dwarf forms, but they are extremely slow growing. How old do you think this plant is...do you know how long it has been growing in this location? The foliage of Hiba arborvitae are thicker and just slightly different. Could you cut a few pieces and photograph both sides of a branch again a white piece of paper (with maybe a pencil or a coin next to it for scale)?

Also, does the foliage bronze up in winter? Does is appear more golden in later spring/summer?

If you are looking for an American arborvitae-like plant that the deer are much less likely to eat, I would consider planting this species. The problem is that they can be hard to find in commerce. You might have to consider mail order and starting with small plants.

If you can respond to the questions above and send a few more pics, I think we can determine which species you have...but it is most likely oriental arborvitae or Hiba arborvitae.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 25, 2025, 12:12 PM EDT
Thanks much for the help.

Are there any older cones on the tree? No cones now. Honestly I never noticed any fruits, but never really looked either. sorry. It is with some dying Pine trees that have cones, so maybe I just never noticed them.

 How old do you think this plant is...do you know how long it has been growing in this location? We've lived here for about 22 years. It was about a 5-6 foot diameter/height at that time. It's now about a 10 foot diameter/height.

does the foliage bronze up in winter? Does is appear more golden in later spring/summer? The color is fairly consistent. MAYBE slightly duller in winter. I guess I assumed it was just slightly drier.

I've included some closer photos. I had to scale them down to email but can send higher res if needed. I've also included what's left of the trunk half that survived, if that helps. That seems to be the major difference between the nursery Arborvitaes and this one. It's more of a bush than a tree. (Sorry if I don't have that terminology right.) The arborvitaes left of the trunk are the ones I was hoping would replace it. Those are the ones the deer find delicious.

I guess another question would ask if there is a way to regrow branches on the side that broke off and is now bare. It's been over 2 years and I don't see it trying. 

Thank you for your help.

Joe


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The Question Asker Replied July 10, 2025, 5:51 PM EDT

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