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Best grass seed for sand and shade #897385

Asked April 15, 2025, 10:41 AM EDT

We have a yard that is sandy and full of trees that make it shady. What is the best grass seed to use? For years we have tried different kinds and still have no luck. thanks Cindy

Washington County Minnesota

Expert Response

Thanks for your question.

For me to provide a good answer, I need two further pieces of information. 

1).You stated that over the years, you tried "....different kinds....".  Could you please be more specific as to what kinds of grass you've tried.   Blue grass?  Rye?  Fescue?  It would not be helpful to you if I suggest something that you have previously used.

2).  When you say "no luck", what exactly do you mean?  Did the grass never germinate?  Did it germinate and then quickly die?  If it did germinate, for how many seasons did it last?

Looking forward to your response.  Thanks for consulting our forum.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 15, 2025, 5:32 PM EDT
Hi again,
We have tried perennial rye, tall fescue, and chewing fescue.  We did not use Kentucky Blue because we don't have a lot of light because of the trees. 
By no luck it means that the germination was about half the amount put down.  We used Scott's brand and others. The grass that did germinate lasted a year or two.  We use starter fertilizer with the grass seed. We rake the area lightly before the seeding and daily water to get it started.  We have put down black dirt before seeding but that disappeared over time. Sand is very hard to deal with.
Hope this helps.
Cindy

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Dear Cindy, here's the response to your question:

Thanks for your question.

For me to provide a good answer, I need two further pieces of information. 

1).You stated that over the years, you tried "....different kinds....".  Could you please be more specific as to what kinds of grass you've tried.   Blue grass?  Rye?  Fescue?  It would not be helpful to you if I suggest something that you have previously used.

2).  When you say "no luck", what exactly do you mean?  Did the grass never germinate?  Did it germinate and then quickly die?  If it did germinate, for how many seasons did it last?

Looking forward to your response.  Thanks for consulting our forum.


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The Question Asker Replied April 15, 2025, 9:10 PM EDT

Thanks for getting back to us.

The fact that you can get grass to germinate but not last more than a season or two solidifies in my mind that the two obstacles confronting you are shade and a soil that has poor water retention. I suspect that I’m not telling you anything that you don’t already know. The hot and dry weather of the last few growing seasons only adds to the challenge. Your addition of black dirt really did not address the sandy nature of your soil. It often has few nutrients and can quickly dry out and disperse. You discovered this. Black dirt does not really counteract the sandy nature of the soil. What you should strongly consider is adding three to four inches of compost to your yard and work it into the underlying soil. See the following for further information:

https://pender.ces.ncsu.edu/2022/02/improving-sandy-soils/

https://www.pca.state.mn.us/sites/default/files/h-hhw1-36.pdf

Contact the following and inquire about places within Washington County where compost can be obtained:

https://extension.umn.edu/local/washington

https://www.washingtoncountymn.gov/Facilities/Facility/Details/28

https://www.wcsw.org/compost

https://www.rumpcacompanies.com/products

With respect to grass seed, and as you correctly concluded, Kentucky Blue Grass would not be a good option. The same goes for most rye grasses. Fescues are your best bet. I know you have tried chewing and tall fescue with, presumably, marginal results. I suspect that they might have done better with improved soil conditions. If you do add some compost to your yard, I would suggest that you give consider using a mixture of creeping red fescue, Chewings fescue, and hard fescue. Perhaps 40% creeping red, 40% Chewings, and 20% hard. Call around to local gardening centers as often they can make up such mixtures. See the following:

https://extension.umn.edu/lawn-care/buying-turfgrass-seed-minnesota-lawns - :~:text=Strong creeping red and Chewings,Sheep fescue = low maintenance.

https://extension.umd.edu/resource/growing-grass-shade/

https://extension.umn.edu/lawns-and-landscapes/planting-and-maintaining-fine-fescue-lawn

https://turf.umn.edu/news/which-fine-fescue-should-you-use

Good luck. Please get back to us should you have any further, related questions. Thanks for consulting with us.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 15, 2025, 10:52 PM EDT

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