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Phragmites control #875954

Asked July 04, 2024, 7:42 PM EDT

I have a pond that is used for irrigation in strawberry fields and tomato fields. The phragmites/reeds are becoming invasive. There are bass and frogs in the pond. Can you recommend a course of action to help get the reeds under control? I'm thinking aquatic glyphosate but am obviously concerned about the fish & frogs and also how long irrigation would need to be avoided after application. Thanks for you help!

Tuscola County Michigan

Expert Response

Control of phragmites/reeds

Phragmites is a difficult to control invasive. You mention aquatic glyphosate. It is sold under the trade named Rodeo and generics are also available. It will work as part of a multi-step effort. There is an excellent paper/presentation available from Wisconsin DNR that works through the process.

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/sites/default/files/topic/Invasives/phragmite_control_management.pdf

There is also a Great Lakes project on phragmites control.

https://www.greatlakesphragmites.net/files/HerbicideQuickGuide.pdf

The greatest threat to fish will be the oxygen depletion that may happen as plant material decays, using up the Oxygen in the water. This is very situation dependent, avoiding decay in the water can reduce potent fish loss. Removal of plant material reduce the chance of oxygen depletion and also removes the Phosphorus from the pond, a major promoter of algae growth. Burning is another option but will result in a release of P to the pond.

Always read and follow label directions.

Have you considered switching to a well. Surface water has challenges from both a food safety and plant disease perspective. When drip irrigation is used you greatly decrease the food safety and plant health challenge, but filtration of pond water to avoid drip tape plugging can often cost more than a well installation. Please excuse the question if there are obvious reasons against a well, I did not receive any specific about the scale of your operation or type of irrigation used.

Please contact me if you wish to talk or need more detail. I would be glad to help.

Lyndon Kelley

Irrigation Educator - MSU Extension/Purdue Extension

612 E Main St, Centreville, MI 49032

https://www.canr.msu.edu/irrigation/

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An Ask Extension Expert Replied July 08, 2024, 12:44 PM EDT

Thank you for the quick response. I will watch/read the links you shared.

Altogether I am irrigating approx 2 acres of strawberries & tomatoes (as well as miscellaneous garden type vegetables.) Using drip irrigation and also have a filter in place to prevent clogging. 

In regards to oxygen depletion once I begin removal of reeds, would a solar bubbler type device be sufficient to combat that? If not, any other suggestions? The pond is about 1/4 acre. 

There is excess algae on the pond right now and it is also giving off an odor. Noticeable from the shoreline. Would you be able to make a recommendation or point me in the right direction to help with this. I have heard that copper sulfate can be used but am leary to jump right in.

This is my first year using the pond for irrigation and truthfully for paying it much attention so I appreciate any knowledge you can share with me.

Thanks for your time,

Jessica 

The Question Asker Replied July 08, 2024, 4:19 PM EDT

Jessica

Irrigation ponds that are heavily used will be replenished from groundwater which cools the pond (mid 60-degree range) but also dilutes the amount of oxygen in the water. The cooler temperature will decrease algae growth. If you are not using the capacity of the pond at least once a week the water will begin to warm, and you'll have more algae growth. The major factors for algae growth are the presence of phosphorus in the water and temperature. Lowering the phosphorus content, short of pulling the capacity of the pond out on a weekly basis, is difficult. Avoiding leaves and any plant material degrading in the water can help minimize phosphorus and ultimately algae growth.

 

Adding oxygen to the water is a stopgap measure to avoid the immediate demise of the fish population. This can be done by bubblers that compressed and emit air at the bottom of the pond, pond pumps that agitate the surface - greatly increasing the amount of oxygen that diffuses to the water or by spraying a small quantity of irrigation water back over the surface. Common practice among irrigators is to use a small impact sprinkler positioned to cover as much of the pond as possible, agitating the water surface anytime irrigation applications are made. This will require 20lbs of pressure or more to be effective.

 

There are several pesticides available to treat ponds to reduce or kill off algae, some of these can be used in the presence of fish safely. Be aware that there are two issues: will the fish die and is the fish safe to eat. Link to the bulletin below will help provide background information and help you select a product.

 

Some irrigators utilizing ponds treat the pond with barley straw before warm up to control algae, I have seen moderate success with this process. The treatment must begin in spring before the algae growth, this allows time for the breakdown of the barley straw that increases the breakdown of the algae populations before they hit the rapid growth stage. Be aware that barley straw itself contains a fair amount of phosphorus; to avoid feeding the problem, pond owners have devised a method for removing the straw once the season is over. I see growers using a net bag tied in position near areas where algae have grown previous years. At the end of the season the bag is retrieved, and the decayed straw is dumped in the field away from the pond.

 

There are several excellent publications related to weed management. I recently pulled together a list of publications for a new employee to review before working on a fact sheet for MSU this winter, Our publication will not be ready in time help you. However, below is the reading list:

 

General pond management

https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/pond-management-guide

https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/managing_michigan_ponds_for_sports_fishing_e1554

https://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/extension_publications/e1554/e1554-1994-print3.pdf

 

Irrigation Pond weed management

https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/aquatic-weed-mangement-control-methods.html

https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/aquatic-weed-management-herbicides.html

https://lgpress.clemson.edu/publication/pond-weeds-causes-prevention-and-treatment-options/

 

Algae control

https://extension.rwfm.tamu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2023/06/Managing-and-controlling-algae-in-ponds.pdf

https://www.extension.purdue.edu/extmedia/Ho/Ho-247-W.pdf

 

Control of phragmites/reeds

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/sites/default/files/topic/Invasives/phragmite_control_management.pdf

https://www.greatlakesphragmites.net/files/HerbicideQuickGuide.pdf

 

Lyndon Kelley

Irrigation Educator - MSU Extension/Purdue Extension

612 E  Main St,  Centreville, MI 49032

https://www.canr.msu.edu/irrigation/

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