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How to control Forgetmenots #875505

Asked July 01, 2024, 1:42 PM EDT

Hi, I have a prolific number of forgetmetnots in my lawn so much they are taking over half my back yard. Their flower is very nice in the spring but it's too much. I've used Ortho Weed B Gone chickweed, clover and oxalis killer to successfully remove creeping charlie and wild violets but no luck with the forgetmenots. Keep my e-mail and name private please

Oakland County Michigan

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Would you please pull a plant with flowers, leaves and seed head, lay it out flat and photograph it on a smooth plain background( not paper towel since the texture throws the focus off) so we see the way the leaves are arranged on the stem? Include a coin or ruler in the shot so we can see the scale. This is so we can be sure which species of forget-me-not you have. 

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They are neither flowering nor seeding at this time.  IO found a 2 year old picture of their flowering and they are a light blue flower.

The Question Asker Replied July 02, 2024, 3:52 PM EDT
I searched for control options for the Myosotis species (forget-me-not) and couldn't find any university articles.  I did learn that it can be invasive and can grow as an annual, biennial or weak perennial.  More info on the Myosotis genus in  the links below:
https://extension.umaine.edu/gardening/2024/04/11/are-forget-me-nots-invasive-or-native/
https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/genus/myosotis/
https://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderProfileResults.aspx?basic=myosotis
https://www.uwgb.edu/biodiversity-old/herbarium/invasive_species/myosyl01.htm
However, looking a the photos of the plant you picked, I think it may be Creeping Charlie (Glechoma hederacea) also known as Ground Ivy.  The leaves match those of creeping charlie as they are lobed and opposite in the stem, NOT characteristic of the Myosotis genus.  Control of Creeping Charlie is a multi-season exercise, maybe even taking several years.  Trichlopyr is a more effective herbicide than 2,4-D.  More info in the attached links:
Ground Ivy Control for Home Lawns-MSU Extension
https://extension.psu.edu/lawn-and-turfgrass-weeds-ground-ivy-glechoma-hederacea-l
https://extension.umn.edu/weeds/ground-ivy
https://turf.purdue.edu/attempting-ground-ivy-control/
Dick M. Replied July 04, 2024, 6:15 PM EDT

Thank you for the information.  They are definitely Mysotis perennial (maybe strong).  They may have been imported as they were intentionally planted in a garden next to the lawn but spread into the lawn.   Although the leaves look similar to creeping charlie, they are much smaller, less than a 1cm while creeping Charlie's leaves are 2 to 2.5 cms.  Creeping charlie has been easy to wipe out using Ortho Weed B Gone (Trichlopyr) chickweed , clover etc.  Wild violets 2nd as easy and clover a little stubborn, but easy to pull out by hand.  But it has no effect on these forget-me-nots.

The Question Asker Replied July 05, 2024, 12:16 AM EDT
At this point you need to take photos of the whole plant per the attached article (GRASS PHOTOGRAPHY TIPS FOR ID-MSU).  Then contact MSU Plant & Pest Diagnostics (Plant & Pest Diagnostics-MSU).  Go to the 'contact us' tab and send in photos to their email address asking for plant identification.
The plant is a dicot and should be succeptable to applications of a broadleaf herbicide preferably in September, but I haven't been able to find any specific recommendations.  More info in the attached link:
https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/consumer-broadleaf-weed-control-for-lawns-in-oklahoma.html
Dick M. Replied July 05, 2024, 10:50 PM EDT

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