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My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. #869605

Asked May 22, 2024, 12:13 PM EDT

My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. Had the tree pruned back to remove deal limbs 2 years ago due to past icy winters. I can send pics via email or to a cell number if desired. Thanks 

Scioto County Ohio

Expert Response

Hi, Jeffrey!

It would be very helpful to have pictures; without I'm just taking a wild guess. You should be able to upload photos when responding to this email. (We are not allowed to share personal phone numbers for texting.) It is helpful to have pictures of the whole tree, closeup of affected branches and closeups of the leaves (front and back) on the affected branches. Also take a close look to see if there are any insects, swellings or other abnormalities on the affected branches. If you can't attach all the photos on one email, feel free to send several emails.

I will look forward to looking at the pictures you send and to answering your question. Although the question may be temporarily marked as "closed", rest assured that when you respond the question will be re-opened and will come directly to me.

Best Regards, Replied May 22, 2024, 3:17 PM EDT
I have attached requested pictures.  Thanks!
Jeffrey
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On May 22, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:


The Question Asker Replied May 23, 2024, 8:15 PM EDT
did you get the pics i sent you?

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From: "Ask Extension"
To: "Jeffrey L Woodard"
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Sent: Wednesday May 22 2024 3:17:25PM
Subject: Re: My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. (#0139526)

The Question Asker Replied May 26, 2024, 10:54 PM EDT

Hi, Jeffrey! Yes, I received your photos. Thank you.

I am researching your question. Can you tell me, is your tree located near large fields (farms, golf courses, parks, etc.)  Also, you mentioned having branches removed in 2022. Did the damage look similar to this? Did it occur at this same time of year? Are you seeing it on one side of the tree or on a variety of places? Is it happening on new growth, or on older branches as well? 

Sorry for so many questions. I am trying to narrow down the problem. Tell me anything you observe. I will do my best to find a cause for your tree problem.

Best Regards, Replied May 27, 2024, 5:01 PM EDT
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The Question Asker Replied May 27, 2024, 8:28 PM EDT

Hello, Again, Jeffrey! I hope you had a good Memorial Day Weekend.

I’ve researched your question as far as I can with the information you have provided. Unfortunately, there are too many possible causes for the problem you describe in your query, including (but not limited to) wind/mechanical injury, maple decline, Anthracnose, and pH level issues. I would need more detail from you to continue.

I am including several research-based articles at the end of this response. They might help you self-diagnose your maple tree problem.

Alternately, you could engage the services of a certified arborist. This article from The Ohio State University will help guide you. Certified arborist is an important distinction. https://ohioline.osu.edu/factsheet/hyg-1032

Another option is sending a sample of your plant, either digitally or physically, to the Plant and Pest Diagnostic Clinic at Ohio State. You will find more information here. https://ppdc.osu.edu/submit-sample

Finally, if you would like to send additional information to me along with “head to toe” photos (in-focus & from top to bottom) of the tree from front and back, I would be more than happy to reopen this ticket. You can respond to this email and it will come directly to me. 

BTW, I received two responses from you in the past two days, both of which were blank. If you sent a response (after the photos and question as to whether I received them), your response did not go through. 

If you choose to have me reopen the ticket, please include as much information as you can think of and be sure to answer the questions I posed. And include those photos. I asked them to try to zero in on the cause of your issue. If I cannot, I will escalate your problem to another expert.

I wish you the best of luck in restoring the health of your tree, and I am happy to help.

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Resources

Common Maple Problems UMass https://www.umass.edu/urbantree/factsheets/23commonmapleproblems.html

Maple Fact Sheet Clemson Extnsion https://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/maple/

Maple Decline Various Factors Cornell - College of Agriculture http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/factsheets/mapledecline.pdf

Red Maple https://extension.umn.edu/trees-and-shrubs/red-maple

Best Regards, Replied May 28, 2024, 7:27 PM EDT
I just sent the May 27 email again. did you get it? 

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From: "Ask Extension"
To: "Jeffrey L Woodard"
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Sent: Tuesday May 28 2024 7:27:09PM
Subject: Re: My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. (#0139526)

The Question Asker Replied May 29, 2024, 10:21 AM EDT
did you get this email from May 27?

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Sent: Monday May 27 2024 8:21:11PM
Subject: Re: My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. (#0139526)

I leave in the country. The closest homes are 100-250 feet away BUT the woods are all around. The closest wooded area is about 150 feet away. 

- Also, you mentioned having branches removed in 2022. 
Did the damage look similar to this? This did not occur last year that I recall. The damaged that was removed was due to past years of ice damage catching up.

- Did it occur at this same time of year? 
As noted in prior answer. No.  

- Are you seeing it on one side of the tree or on a variety of places?  
Predominately the south side (that is what the pics were of). There are a few spots up higher on the west side but 95% is on the south side down low.

Is it happening on new growth, or on older branches as well? Predominately low (85%) but there is some on new growth.

Hope this helps.

Jeff 

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From: "Ask Extension"
To: "Jeffrey L Woodard"
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Sent: Monday May 27 2024 5:01:41PM
Subject: Re: My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. (#0139526)

The Question Asker Replied May 29, 2024, 10:21 AM EDT

Hi, Jeff!  My apologies that your 5/27 response did not come through. I truly appreciate that you were willing to re-send.

Could I ask for two more photos and a little more information?

Photos: a top to bottom photo of the tree from the south and another from the north, if possible. (If you sent these in your first set of photos, they did not come through. Again, apologies.)

Information: 1) Are there any farms or fields near you, that is, within a couple miles. 2) Can you guestimate the age and/or height of the tree?

I promise that I am not putting you off. I'm concerned about your tree. I might need to escalate your very excellent question to another expert, and I want to be sure I have full and accurate information.

I am traveling this week, but I will be sure to watch for your response and to reply as soon as possible.


Best Regards, Replied May 29, 2024, 11:02 AM EDT

One more question. What lies north of your property, beyond the surrounding woods. Is there water runoff from that direction?

Best Regards, Replied May 29, 2024, 12:00 PM EDT

What I meant to ask in the last question was what lies SOUTH of your property, beyond the surrounding woods, on the side of the tree where you see the most damage. Sorry ... I was on the road and didn't edit as carefully as needed.

Best Regards, Replied May 30, 2024, 6:47 AM EDT
Just seen this email.

Water runoff. The water that can reach the tree on its northern edge is from my roof gutter that runs into the side yard from a popup downspout and then down the edge of the concrete driveway under the edge of the northern tree limbs

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Sent: Wednesday May 29 2024 12:00:50PM
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The Question Asker Replied May 30, 2024, 10:08 AM EDT
Homes on 100x150 lots all surrounded in the back of the property by woods as the holler rolls behind the homes. Nearest home is about 200 feet away. Nearest woods to the tree is abou 100 fees as the crow flies

Hope that helps

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Sent: Thursday May 30 2024 6:47:21AM
Subject: Re: My crimson king maple has some limbs with dying leaves. (#0139526)

The Question Asker Replied May 30, 2024, 10:08 AM EDT

Thank you for your patience, Jeffrey.

I am going to escalate your question to another expert. They will see all the photos you sent and be able to read our exchanges. You will either hear from them or me shortly.

I would still like to see a photo of the entire tree. Only closeups came through.

I would also like to know if there are any farms, open fields or golf courses within 2 miles. 

Both of these would be of help.  

Best Regards, Replied May 30, 2024, 1:37 PM EDT
Good afternoon and thank you for your question.  I would encourage you to submit a sample to the Plant and Pest Diagnostic clinic for a more accurate diagnosis.  Often times even photos are not enough for the best of us to try to diagnose the issue.  Here is information on how to submit a sample:  https://ppdc.osu.edu/submit-sample

Please let me know if you have any other questions.  Thanks.
Jennifer Andon Replied May 30, 2024, 4:29 PM EDT

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