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31" tall bluegrass in 100% shade #869263

Asked May 20, 2024, 1:34 PM EDT

Hello. Some sort of bluegrass popped up this year in a spot that never gets direct sun. It exists in many clumps within this full shade area. It sprang up among some obovate beakgrain, phlox and little bluestem that I'd planted. Its current height is anywhere from 18" to 31". Stems: the top stem node is always in the top 1/2 of the stem, no hair anywhere on stem. Leaves: Upper stem leaves are short/erect, lower stem leaves are long/lax, boat-like shaped toward leaf ends. As seen in one of the photos, several tiny ants are feeding on some of the stems. Most everything seems to point to broadleaf bluegrass (Poa chiaxii)--but that's only supposed to exist way up north. Could it instead be inland bluegrass or...really tall, shade-loving Kentucky bluegrass? Thank you for your help in IDing this bluegrass.

Hennepin County Minnesota

Expert Response

These questions are assigned by computer to UMN Extension Master Gardener volunteers and grass is not my area of expertise.
I am unable to answer your question based on my research and will try to get it reassigned to someone with more grass knowledge. .

Thanks for the question. It has been assigned to me.

It is always challenging to ID grasses from just pictures. As I attempted to ID what you sent to me, I kept coming up with different possibilities. The certain thing is that it is some type of bluegrass. I’m afraid that only a microscopic examination of a specimen will enable the making of a final decision. Poa chiaxii has been reported in St. Louis County while you, of course, reside in Hennepin County. Although this may seem to rule out this possibility, one could conjure up scenarios whereby this species might have found its way south.

I considered the possibility that this could be a type of annual bluegrass (e.g., Poa annua). That seems unlikely as its height rarely approaches 12 inches.

Your suggestion that this may simply be common bluegrass seeking sun cannot be ruled out.

Here’s what I would suggest by which you could get an accurate ID. Contact the following:

Dr. Eric Watkins

Department of Horticultural Science

338 Alderman Hall

1970 Folwell Ave.
Saint Paul, MN 55108

http://<personal data hidden>

Then check out this site from the University of Wisconsin. It has an excellent guide for grass identification as well as contact individuals at the university:

https://hort.extension.wisc.edu/articles/identifying-grasses-wisconsin/

Mention to either resource that you have been referred to them from a University of Minnesota Extension Master Gardener and you need to have a grass ID. That may or may not help you to get into the door.

Good luck. If you can, please let us know how things turn out. Thanks for consulting us.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 20, 2024, 6:21 PM EDT

Thanks for the question. It has been assigned to me.

It is always challenging to ID grasses from just pictures. As I attempted to ID what you sent to me, I kept coming up with different possibilities. The certain thing is that it is some type of bluegrass. I’m afraid that only a microscopic examination of a specimen will enable the making of a final decision. Poa chiaxii has been reported in St. Louis County while you, of course, reside in Hennepin County. Although this may seem to rule out this possibility, one could conjure up scenarios whereby this species might have found its way south.

I considered the possibility that this could be a type of annual bluegrass (e.g., Poa annua). That seems unlikely as its height rarely approaches 12 inches.

Your suggestion that this may simply be common bluegrass seeking sun cannot be ruled out.

Here’s what I would suggest by which you could get an accurate ID. Contact the following:

Dr. Eric Watkins

Department of Horticultural Science

338 Alderman Hall

1970 Folwell Ave.
Saint Paul, MN 55108

http://<personal data hidden>

Then check out this site from the University of Wisconsin. It has an excellent guide for grass identification as well as contact individuals at the university:

https://hort.extension.wisc.edu/articles/identifying-grasses-wisconsin/

Mention to either resource that you have been referred to them from a University of Minnesota Extension Master Gardener and you need to have a grass ID. That may or may not help you to get into the door.

Good luck. If you can, please let us know how things turn out. Thanks for consulting us.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 20, 2024, 6:23 PM EDT
Hello and thank you so for your help--for your referral to Dr. Watkins, for this great University of Wisconsin grass guide, and for recommending that I state it's you who have referred me.  These things are of great help.  

From what I can see, it's likely not a native bluegrass species--as none of them tend to get this tall.  But one never knows.  So I definitely will get a precise answer and will let you all know that answer.  Thank you again for your help.  


On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 5:21 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied May 22, 2024, 10:54 AM EDT

Glad to be of assistance. Please keep us apprised of events.  Thanks for consulting us. 

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 22, 2024, 11:02 PM EDT

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