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grub treatment - safe products this spring #865122

Asked April 19, 2024, 12:54 PM EDT

What are my options for environmentally safe treatments for grub infestations in a lawn/garden other than nematodes. (I know someone who said nematodes are not very effective - perhaps this is because the grubs are from a larger beetle - not the Japanese beetle?) A tip where to purchase items are also helpful. I have seen items at Menards and Bachman's. Thank you.

Hennepin County Minnesota

Expert Response


Thanks for your question. It is not an easy one to answer when your say “environmentally safe”. To find something that gets rid of grubs without affecting any other living creature is not really possible. You are correct about the use of nematodes. That approach has had mixed success in Minnesota. All I can do is to direct you to the following which is the best scientifically based advice that I can find:

https://extension.umn.edu/yard-and-garden-insects/japanese-beetles - non-chemical-management-options-1591111

https://extension.umn.edu/news/japanese-beetle

https://pepin.extension.wisc.edu/files/2010/10/Hort-Japanese-Beetle-Management-in-Minnesota.pdf

I am sorry that I cannot provide you with a “magic bullet” by which to deal with this pest. Unfortunately there just isn’t one.

Thanks for consulting us.


An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 19, 2024, 4:30 PM EDT
Thank you for your quick response.  I was just starting to think about what else they may attack - and what happens when there are no more grubs?
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The Question Asker Replied April 19, 2024, 6:18 PM EDT
I just noted that all the links you sent me to are for Japanese beetles.  The beatles are big and dark - they are not Japanese Beetles.  Does the same info apply?

I got rid of most of my Japanese beetles with aggressiveness and also tore out most of the things they prefer to eat.  Thanks.

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The Question Asker Replied April 19, 2024, 6:24 PM EDT

Thanks for getting back to us. For us to assist you further, we have to identify the type of insect with which we are dealing.  There are many beetles that fit your description.  To provide you with meaningful and accurate information, we would need to see a picture of either the beetle or the grub.  We understand that this may not be possible to obtain at this time (mid-April 2024).  If and when you are able to do this, we would be in far better position to assist you.  We also note that you asked a question regarding grubs last October (2023).   At that time a definitive answer could not be provided to you since no identification was made of the grubs. 

Thanks again for reaching out to us.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 19, 2024, 7:38 PM EDT
Thank you, I will do that. 

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The Question Asker Replied April 21, 2024, 12:18 PM EDT

Will look forward to receiving any pictures you are able to send.

Thanks again for consulting us.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 21, 2024, 1:11 PM EDT


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The Question Asker Replied April 30, 2024, 4:51 PM EDT
My sister sent the following pictures this week to ID the beattle/grub that is eating my grass roots.  It is also on the insect ID page but does not have any information about it.  I need to know the least harmful way to treat these now as they are turning into beetles and are towards the top of the soil.
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The Question Asker Replied May 02, 2024, 7:34 PM EDT

Thanks foe your patience.  I am consulting an entomologist regarding things.

Thanks for using our forum,

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 09, 2024, 1:16 PM EDT

Thanks foe your patience.  I am consulting an entomologist regarding things.

Thanks for using our forum.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 09, 2024, 1:16 PM EDT

Thanks for the pictures.  I am, however, slightly confused.  Are these pictures of grubs from your lawn or pictures of grubs/beetles from some place else?  If the latter, then it would be helpful to see a couple of pictures of grubs from your yard.   The best way to do this is to lift up a piece of sod and see if any grubs are underneath.

Thanks for continuing to consult our forum.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 10, 2024, 12:05 AM EDT
The pictures are from my lawn about 1-3” below the surface.  I believe theses grubs turn into these beetles due to proximity.  I was told that the type of treatment and timing was dependent on type of grub and to send pictures.   I have since purchased ( but not put out) johnathan green natural grub and insect control.  They will also kill the ant colonies but supposedly not bees or butterflies.   Please advise.  Thanks

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The Question Asker Replied May 12, 2024, 6:10 PM EDT

Thanks for your last response and especially for the pictures.

The beetle on the left of the three pictures looks like a type of Chafer beetles. They are sometimes called May Bugs or June Bugs. It might even be the European Chafer that was first reported in Minnesota about four years ago. These types of beetles overwinter in the soil as adults. Depending upon the exact species, these adults emerge from the soil in late May extending into early July. These adults quickly mate and lay eggs that develop into white grubs. These grubs will destroy the roots of many plants including turf grasses. These grubs can be detected as early as June and extending into August. Here is some information about this type of beetle:

https://apps.extension.umn.edu/garden/diagnose/insect/general-curiosity-insects/beetles/medium/may-june-beetles.html

https://www.mda.state.mn.us/plants-insects/europeanchafer

https://patch.com/minnesota/southwestminneapolis/invasive-lawn-eating-beetle-makes-way-minnesota-1st-time

The middle picture of the three pictures is a chafer beetle grub. See the following:

https://extension.umn.edu/corn-pest-management/white-grubs

The right picture of the three pictures is an adult chafer bug.

We now know that Japanese Beetle grubs are not the culprits. The window of time to deal with the chafer grubs will then run from late May into August. This is the period during which chafer grubs will be the most active and most susceptible to intervention. Although the following deals with Japanese beetles, it also is true for chafer bugs. Please note that this site will also describe the types of chemicals that can be used in addition to the more natural use of beneficial nematodes:

https://pepin.extension.wisc.edu/files/2010/10/Hort-Japanese-Beetle-Management-in-Minnesota.pdf

I do not have any direct experience with Johnathan Green Natural Grub and Insect Control. What little I found is contained in the following:

https://www.bestproductsreviews.com/best-grub-killer?targetid=kwd<personal data hidden>61&matchtype=b&device=c&campaignid=<personal data hidden>&creative=<personal data hidden>8&adgroupid=<personal data hidden>3&feeditemid=&loc_physical_ms=9019792&loc_interest_ms=&network=g&devicemodel=&placement=&keyword=$best grub killer&target=&aceid=&adposition=&trackid=us_all_top_1_1&mId=<personal data hidden>&trackOld=true&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fk_XpDmOhfD0J9O_8BIdIZA-rkQa_0o13CH-0KYyjMHOZKS1jsnlLhoC7T8QAvD_BwE

Perhaps the best advice I can provide you is to use a variety of different grub control processes. Use both natural as well as chemical approaches. Some may work and some may not. Complete elimination of these grubs probably will not occur in a single year. It will require patience and experimentation on your part.

Good luck. Of course, if you have further questions, please get back to us. Thanks for using our forum.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 13, 2024, 7:55 PM EDT
Thank you so much for the info!  I very much appreciate your help.  I used the treatment yesterday before it rained, but I think it takes alot of watering before it dissolves into the ground.

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The Question Asker Replied May 16, 2024, 5:52 PM EDT

I think you are now on the correct track.  Good luck, keep us apprised.  Thanks again for using our forum.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 16, 2024, 7:19 PM EDT
Thank you and I will.  There was a good rain the night that I put out the treatment-but there are still granulas on the top of the soil and plenty of ants so I don't know that it dissolved which is confusing because it said 15 minutes of watering.  I will let you know if I have evidence of success.

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The Question Asker Replied May 17, 2024, 1:21 PM EDT

We are here to help you so don't hesitant to get back to us about how things are going.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied May 17, 2024, 2:53 PM EDT

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